Vietnam Tries to Portray Cult Gathering as Christian





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    @666 IMF freemasonry -->you have condemned the world: through: your hatred to the total destruction! the social structure of Christians: it can not resist all this evil institutional! soon: very soon you'll see devils dancing on the ground in the atomic fire: and in the wildest of your despair: and they bring you down: in the despair and destruction that is your heritage! you have stolen the monetary sovereignty: Your became: the real power: and all the Peoples: perish: the policy is impotent! many desperate young people? they jump on your bandwagon of winner: and seek success and their realization in Satanism! but, you have prepared a great slaughter: only! As the fire of my anger: will consume you too?
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    ♰PAX ♛ Took possession Terror: all Children of Darkness. AMEN. I'm like Noah: that saved the lives of everyone: lizards (enlightened), crocodiles (sharia) scorpions (Zionists), snakes(666 322). So, while, as "Rei Unius,"I would not: use any violence. However, as lorenzojhwh, I have Received from God, the death of 500 million criminals: to free all the poor around the world. If you are an Accomplice, with your silence: of this absolute crime of the false democracies: Masonic: of the banking seigniorage? Your Life is in Danger! "Amen" was said: In Jesus's name [♰★]hallelujah strike! strike! I have done wrong to the All Those criminals who Toppled the love of the Cross ♰ [♚MENE ★ Techel PERES] PAX♰ CSPBCSSMLNDSMDSMSNVRVSQLIVMB "drink your poisons made by yourself"That we bet you'll be dead in 2013? you will not be alive in 2014 to say" you wrong!
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    INDIA - ITALY: [the largest democracy? has become the biggest devil! ] The ballistic: said: it was: a Beretta ARX 160: to kill! In this way: completely exonerates: Italian soldiers: that: have shot: only: a sign of warning from the tanker Enrica Lexie: using: only experimental weapons. the only obvious case? Only in this way: it can be described! So, was the army of Kerala in India, that "coincidentally" has captured the vessel: St. Antony: and that "coincidentally" shot: the two fishermen Catholics: point blank! AND THAT: "coincidentally" not knew that Italian troops had: only: experimental weapons ... At this point? we have to declare war on India: Immediately!
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    INDIA: [Satanism of the Hindus: and the violation of democratic principles] 1. But why all this hate against Christians in Orissa? In many areas of this state, Christians are not even present. Only in the districts of Kandhamal and Sundergarh reach: about: 15%: against the average of Orissa, which is just: 2%. This Indian state: counts: also: a few Muslims. Despite these numbers, Orissa has a long history of violence against: the two minority groups. Hindus do not want: that no one enter their territories. They fear that many "outcasts" (Dalit slaves) and many "tribal" embrace: the Christianity.
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    INDIA: [Satanism of the Hindus: and the violation of democratic principles] For this reason, Orissa is one of the Indian states that have adopted laws: against: conversions, that: they claim to be induced: by fraud or money. In India a few months: you vote: for the general election. 2. There is a tragic bond: Also: with this violence? It is a fact that this violence viewfinder: to "shrink" the Hindus. And to reap: advantage: not may: that: to be the "Movements" related: the "fundamentalists", who: have their political reference: in the "Bharatiya Janata Party," the main opposition party.
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    esercitoitalianoblog.it -> There is no evidence against the soldiers! this morning I read an article on this story, I'm thinking that the Indian government claims to collect money from the Italian government: on the one hand, the owner of the tanker Enrica Lexie on board which traveled the soldiers arrested, paid 450 000 euro deposit to release the ship. On the other hand, the two families of fishermen killed on February 15 last cash these more than 300,000 euros by the Italian government for what happened... ecc.. ecc.. ecc... In this way we have agreements with the owner of the vessel and with the families of fishermen killed. but, There is no evidence against the soldiers, but they are in prisons. [Indian wisdom: if you do not steal with the pirate?: Then i will steal with the judge! ]
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    [Esercitoitalianoblog.it] Marò arrested in India: the Italian Navy denies the use of the Beretta ARX 160. April 12, 2012. according to the ANSA news agency, none of the weapons seized: on Enrica Lexie: is a Beretta ARX 160. emphasize: the sources of the Navy. introduction of new weapons are: current and experimentation at the San Marco Regiment, but: not yet employed in the service, and operations outside the box. The Italian and Indian thesis: that the crime has happened in international waters, then tap : the military prosecutor of Rome: prosecute two soldiers. While: the Indian State of Kerala claim: that the crime took place on board a fishing vessel of the Indian: and then apply the law: of the place... or they appeal to the other: sentence, that: has violates the law of international waters
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    [20/04/2012 INDIA - ITALY India: According to the Central Government Enrica Lexie was in international waters] the Government of Kerala: trampling on international law has plunged the world in "piracy court"! 05/30/2012 12:41. INDIA - ITALY. Kerala: Italian marines out on bail. Fr Stephen Kulakkayathil tells AsiaNews. He is the parish priest of Quilon, which belongs to the diocese where the two fishermen who died in the incident with the Enrica Lexie lived. The Kerala High Court imposes a 10 million rupee bail (US$ 180,000) and certain conditions. Kochi (AsiaNews) - Latore Massimiliano and Salvatore Girone, the two Italian marines accused of killing two Indian fishermen off the coast of Kerala in February this year, have been granted bail by the Kerala High Court, Fr Stephen Kulakkayathil, parish priest of Quilon, told AsiaNews. The bail was set at 10 million rupees (US$ 180,000). The two marines must remain available for any further interrogations.
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    [20/04/2012 INDIA - ITALY India: According to the Central Government Enrica Lexie was in international waters] "The conditions set by the court are very restrictive," the priest said. "It is probable that the authorities will not return their passport. They will remain in India for the time being, in the embassy." Two Indian citizens will act as "guarantors". Meanwhile, Kerala authorities appear to have dropped some of the charges, especially those relating to India's maritime terrorism laws. The two marines are the only people under investigation in connection with the death of the two Indian fishermen, Jelestein and Ajesh Binki, who were killed off the coast of Kerala on 15 February.The two soldiers were on board the Italian ship Enrica Lexie at the time of the incident and allegedly mistook the fishermen for pirates. (GM) [Who will respect forever: the international law: when will the Indians are their go wrong?]
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    @ 666 -> you have erased any hope for you and for all! What has God: in common with us? He has given us freedom ... but, as we have used this freedom? Bad teachers (NWO Freemasons IMF) have made ​​legal: even: Satanism: banking seigniorage: and this: it has taken control (of the strategic structures of society: monopoly, SpA) how the situation could be worse? Jewish moneylenders, do charge: our own money: at: 270% of its value in keeping with the Talmud, which says to destroy all Peoples! ie: to a people: that: od be sovereign: it has become enslaved people! a Muslim to believing me: Freemasonry: he called me: "I do not work for 4 years: Freemasonry you, you can give me a job?" .. here's why: Many young people choose the path of Satanism!
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    Kain Darothic posted a comment: 8 hours ago: SAID: "UniusRei3're really obsessed with all this bullshit god. To bad you have Realized it's all stories in a book." - ANSWER -> never a person rational, like me: and that: too: witness the risurezione of Christ, like me might be obsessed with anything! because faith and reason in me: they complement and compensate --ANSWER-->[ King Unius REI ] the fact that God is an absolute monarchy? this does not make him a dictator, because our law? is the law of love! il fatto che Dio: è una monarchia assoluta? questo non fa di lui: un dittatore: perché la nostra legge? è la legge dell'amore! sorry, but if youtube: Synnek1 does not find the words against me? as you can be a loser? @youtube --> If you not cancel all Satanists, etc, etc. .. the world should burn between 700 days!
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    @youtube --> all your power? is nothing! because: you are not free: not: to speak in your own server! all your money? you can put them in the ass! IMF youtube & google --> 666 synagogue ---> lol. no! a satanist can not trust someone because they would be punished with death! L'utente Synnek1 ha attivato il blocco dei contatti. Non potrai inviargli messaggi se l'utente non ti ha aggiunto come contatto. -- You can trust me? -> Synnek1 --> what you can be more? you who have not planted a tree and have not given birth to a son? (Chinese proverb) @666 --> Governments? they have not believed in me! soon all die! all your wickedness will end badly!
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    @youtube --Synnek1 --> You are responsible for: to have closed thousands and thousands: of Site: perfect! guilty for you: only to do good work for Christ @Synnek: "1" -> is not great a man: when he can give death, but only when it can give life! I am the life of the world! --> non è grande un uomo quando può dare la morte: ma, soltanto quando può dare la vita! io sono la vita del mondo! You have chosen the dark side here, because the cemetery is your perfection! but, God could close your life at any moment! all sites had to be Satanists, those who you had to quit cancel erased! you never shared any information with me! Amen --> in Jesus's name! @666 --> Governments? they have not believed in me! soon all die! all your wickedness will end badly!
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    @UniusRei3: YOU ["HAVE"] TOO MUCH "KNOWLEDGE"/"INFORMATION"...YET, "UNDERSTAND"------->NADA, ZILCH, NOTHING! LMFAO! >;-) FROM NOW ON YOU ARE: MR.[TMI]...Too MUCH "[INFORMATION"]...>;-')
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    thousands of accounts if not millions------------>"TERMINATED"/"SUSPENDED" in my NAME! lmfao! >;-)
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    Synnek1 posted a comment: 2 minutes ago Hey! [I] AM THE [BEST]! Undeniably:! SUPERIOR! >;-) - ANSWER-> WHAT'S IN YOUR LIFE THAN THE FUCK? when you're dead?in this impending: 3° nuclear WW: as you wanted? which you can demonstrate superiority? certain: the IMF: of Rothschild 666: stole the monetary sovereignty: through: Freemasonry: and wars and murders, etc. .. he can say how the Emperor Nero: "I am superior to all." but Nero? he not died happy! though: he felt superior: to all like you? but, He has never been a happy man! Today? is a human demonic torch!
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    Hey! [I] AM THE [BEST]! Undeniably: !SUPERIOR! >;-)
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    @ Thomas CIA IMF Mistafield 666: NWO -> 1. why did you bring: in your all this: curse and desolate: of "fzcsify" in your life? 2. because God gave you life: for to love, while: thou hast given to Satan: for hate? 3. because: you want to live like a parasite to damage the American people, along with Bush and Rothschild? 4. because you have taken control of youtube and google: to do harm to all Peoples? 5. What has better death: for do not : exist the life? 6. all have a duty to be in the light: for to collect in their inheritance: in the LOVE. [I have seen all your girls, you've ruined! but I knew them already! ones I've seen before!] soon: very soon you'll see devils dancing on the ground in the atomic fire: and in the wildest of your despair: and they bring you down: in the despair and destruction that is your heritage!
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    @ Thomas CIA 666: Mistafield -> is for your fault and your system: Masonic of banking seigniorage: ie, the Jewish synagogue of Satan: IMF, if, now, all mankind will be exterminated: in this imminent and inevitable: 3 ° nuclear WW! as an imperative: to hide: the collapse: inevitable of the IMF: and to regenerate: a new IMF: parasite: and devitalizing! However, if all the governments of the world wanted to work with me? certain: I could avoid this: 3 ° WW nuclear: for to create: my own: the new IMF: based on the property: of all the Peoples! : however: because of you Satanists: the U.S.: will be destroyed:However by a gigantic meteorite: between: 100 years: (Ball of Redemption of: Veronica Lueken NY)
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    CIA IMF @ 666 -> up to that point, you've pushed your wickedness: for the happiness of your penis and your pocket? just because the IMF: and Masons have given you this opportunity criminal? The prostitutes can be retrieved: to the normal life: but, as it's possible to recover: a Satanist: that: she drank human blood: etc. .. etc..? and now you've become: a slave desperate: for Satan, a slave to this page and you're forced to prove to: Rothschild: and at his high priest of Satan, that: you're the best!




Vietnam Tries to Portray Cult Gathering as Christian
Military forcibly disbands amassed Hmong attracted to messianic sect.
HANOI, Vietnam, May 6 (CDN) — The government tried to portray several thousand Hmong followers of a sub-Christian messianic cult as orthodox Christians while the military forcibly disbanded their gathering yesterday and today.


The cult members recruited from orthodox Christian groups – vulnerable to false teaching in a country where Christians cannot print their own Bibles and are subject to other restrictions – had gathered for religious reasons in Muong Nhe district, Dien Bien Province, but it turned into a confrontation before local defense forces disbanded them, bolstered by Vietnam People’s Army reinforcements hastily dropped in by helicopters.


Sources in Muong Nhe told Compass today that several thousand Hmong who had initially gathered to wait for the ushering in of a new Hmong kingdom had been sent or taken back to their home areas, but that some 3,000 remained. A source said that about 50 Hmong followers, including the purported “messiah” and another top leader, fled into the forest but were captured by the military. The two leaders were said to have been severely beaten by the military.


One Compass source said that no one had been killed in the military action, contrary to one published report.


Some missionaries who work with the large, two-decades-old Hmong Christian movement, said to number more than 350,000, have reported aggressive cult activity since March. Severe restrictions on religious freedom in the Northwest Mountainous region where most of the Hmong live have made it difficult to train church leaders and provide adequate biblical teaching for these recent followers of Christ. As a result, church leaders said, lack of foundational biblical knowledge clearly makes them gullible to false teaching.


In the last 15 years, some 42,000 Hmong Christians have migrated from the northwest provinces to Vietnam’s Central Highlands, in major part to escape religious repression.


Earlier in the year the worldwide Harold Camping cult, which is predicting a May 21 end of the world, began recruiting among Hmong Christians. They used material translated into the Hmong language and began to draw some followers, sources said. A short time later there appeared another in a succession of purported Hmong “messiahs.” According to Hmong mythology predating the arrival of Christianity, a Hmong messiah will appear and establish a pan-Hmong kingdom. Several such messiahs have been said to have appeared in the past.


The latest purported Hmong messiah is a 25-year-old man named Zhong Ka Chang, now renamed Tu Jeng Cheng, meaning “the important one.” He was born in Muong Tong commune of Muong Nhe district in northwestern Dien Bien Province, about 200 kilometers (124 miles) northwest of Dien Bien city. There his followers came to him from throughout the country, and he reportedly has performed miracles that enhanced his reputation.


Contradictions between the cults notwithstanding, the poorly educated villagers who follow them appear to have conflated the two into one, being especially attracted to the idea of a Hmong kingdom, sources said.


At least one of the church organizations with which the Hmong are affiliated appears to have been aware of the situation early. In March, when the Vietnam Good News Mission church heard of the Camping end-of-the-word cult, it published a 14-page booklet in Hmong and Vietnamese carefully refuting the false teaching, church leaders said. But many other Hmong Christians did not have access to it.


Officials of the Evangelical Church of Vietnam-North, with which most Hmong Protestant Christians are affiliated, were denied permission to visit the area of the gathering in Muong Nhe district at mid-week, church leaders said. Government authorities told them it was not a religious matter, they said.


The thousands converging on Muong Nhe from various parts of the country – estimates range from 5,000 to 11,000 – greatly concerned Vietnamese authorities. Though they have eased the heavy persecution of Hmong Christians of earlier years, Vietnamese authorities retain suspicion of what they consider a “foreign” religion, sources said. This concern is greatly heightened whenever there is any suggestion of political independence, as in the case of a Hmong kingdom led by a “messiah.”


Vietnamese authorities moved quickly on two fronts. An official Vietnamese government Web site began a vicious disinformation campaign against the “Vang Chu religion.” Vang Chu religion means “The Religion of the Lord of Heaven” and is what Hmong Protestants call themselves. The posting, apparently the first in a series, accused Hmong Protestants of involvement in smuggling, drug abuse, drug running, destruction of forests, stealing of land, illegal migration and threatening national security.


It also tied the Vang Chu faith directly to the recently-deceased Hmong Gen. Vang Pao, who led CIA-supported Hmong forces in Laos against communists during the Vietnam War era and supported a resistance for years thereafter. The government Web site article displays a photo of a White Hmong Bible (one of two dialects into which the Hmong Bible is translated) and a Christian songbook, as if they were subversive documents. The article confuses Christian radio broadcasts of the Far East Broadcasting Co. with Radio Free Asia broadcasts. It also contains several completely and intentionally confused Christian doctrines and pejoratively mocks Hmong peasants for not being able to answer questions on what they believe.


The disinformation posting concludes by saying the Vang Chu religion is a perversion of Protestantism and is being exploited “by enemy forces” to subvert the communist revolution. Rather, church leaders said, it is the cults that are a perversion of Protestant Christianity. The messianic cult in Hmong is called “Sau Vang.”


Secondly, Vietnamese authorities moved against the cult followers with overwhelming military force. Military helicopters flew in crack Vietnam People’s Army troops yesterday (May 5) to reinforce many border patrol forces and police already there.


A 17-minute Vietnamese-language interview by a Vietnamese BCC reporter with Muong Nhe district chief Giang A Dinh on Wednesday (May 4) reflected how the government wished to portray the gathering. An angry Giang told the interviewer the Hmong had taken several officials hostage. Today a higher provincial official denied the hostage taking and otherwise tried to minimize the situation, saying it was under control.


Sources in the affected area told Compass on Wednesday (May 4) that the cult leaders had set up a tent as a “courthouse” venue to negotiate for land with authorities. The same sources said the army and other forces moved decisively the next day and today to send and transport the assembled Hmong back to their homes. By the end of Friday, Compass sources said, only 3,000 remained.


This figure agrees with what government officials have told news agencies, but a Compass source added that group of 50 cult followers, including the purported messiah and another top leader, fled into the forest. They were captured, and the two leaders were said to have been badly beaten by their captors.


A Vietnam expert said government information, foreign press agency reports, and an unnamed diplomat quoted in an Agence France-Presse (AFP) report on events in Muong Nhe district contain information that wrongly impugns the entire large Hmong Christian movement.


The Muong Nhe district event was best understood, the expert said, as a gathering of an aberrant cult followed by as few as 2 percent of Christian Hmong. Moreover, he said, the cult’s appearance was made more likely by the fact that many Hmong Christians still are denied teaching in basic beliefs because of serious religious liberty restrictions.


For example, the Hmong are still denied a legally-printed Bible. Only about 20 percent of Hmong pastors are legally allowed to study theology. Christian leaders working with Hmong did their best to counteract the cult, sources said, but the government also hampered these efforts.


The volatile mix of religion and politics, especially the messianic quest for a separate Hmong kingdom, proved a flash point for Vietnam’s authorities.


“This event regrettably shows that the Vietnamese government’s first and natural reaction is still to find reasons to impugn the whole Christian movement instead of trying understand crucial nuances,” the expert said. “Fortunately, the military response seems to have been measured.”


Releases by The Associated Press, BBC and AFP on this incident too quickly likened it to ethnic minority demonstrations for religious freedom and land rights in Vietnam’s Central Highlands in 2001 and 2004, the expert said. The underlying motivations for this Hmong gathering were entirely different – waiting for a Hmong kingdom to be ushered in – even though both resulted in a perceived demand for land and independence.


An AFP report yesterday quotes a foreign diplomat as saying of Vietnam that, “Some Hmong have previously called for a Hmong Christian State.” Hmong church sources said this was false and supported the government position. 




Vietnam cerca di ritrarre Gathering Cult come Christian
Scioglie con la forza militare Hmong accumulato attratto setta messianica.
 Il governo ha cercato di rappresentare diverse migliaia di seguaci Hmong di un sub-cristiano culto messianico come cristiani ortodossi, mentre l'esercito si sciolse con la forza la loro raccolta di ieri e di oggi. I membri della setta reclutati da gruppi cristiani ortodossi - vulnerabili al falso insegnamento in un paese dove i cristiani non possono stampare le loro Bibbie proprie e sono soggetti ad altre restrizioni - si erano radunati per motivi religiosi in Muong Nhe distretto, Dien Bien Provincia, ma si trasformò in uno scontro prima difesa locale costringe sciolto loro, rafforzato dal Vietnam rinforzi esercito del popolo in fretta caduto in da elicotteri. Fonti Muong Nhe detto Compass oggi che diverse migliaia di Hmong che si erano inizialmente riuniti per attendere l'avvento della nuova Hmong regno era stato inviato o ricondotte alle loro zone di origine, ma che circa 3.000 è rimasto. Una fonte ha detto che circa 50 seguaci Hmong, tra cui il presunto "messia" e un altro dirigente superiore, sono fuggiti nella foresta, ma sono stati catturati dai militari. I due leader si sono detti di essere stato brutalmente picchiato dai militari. Compass Una fonte ha detto che nessuno era stato ucciso in un'azione militare, al contrario di un rapporto pubblicato. Alcuni missionari che lavorano con il grande, a due decenni di età cristiana Hmong movimento, ha detto a contare più di 350.000, hanno riportato l'attività aggressive di culto da marzo. Severe restrizioni alla libertà religiosa nella regione montagnosa del nord-ovest, dove la maggior parte dei Hmong dal vivo hanno reso difficile per la formazione leader della chiesa e fornire un adeguato insegnamento biblico per questi ultimi i seguaci di Cristo. Come risultato, i leader della chiesa hanno detto, la mancanza di fondamentale conoscenza biblica rende chiaramente credulone falso insegnamento. Negli ultimi 15 anni, circa 42.000 Hmong cristiani sono emigrati dalle province nord-occidentali al altipiani centrali del Vietnam, in gran parte per sfuggire alla repressione religiosa. All'inizio dell'anno in tutto il mondo cult Harold Camping, che si prevede un 21 maggio fine del mondo, cominciarono a reclutare fra i cristiani Hmong. Hanno usato materiale tradotto nella lingua Hmong e cominciò a disegnare alcuni seguaci, riferiscono le fonti. Poco tempo dopo apparve un altro in una successione di Hmong presunto "messia". Secondo la mitologia Hmong anticipando l'arrivo del cristianesimo, un messia Hmong apparirà e stabilire un pan-Hmong regno. Molti ad esempio sono stati messia sarebbe apparsa in passato. L'ultimo presunto messia Hmong è un 25-anno-vecchio uomo di nome Zhong Ka Chang, ora rinominata Jeng Tu Cheng, che significa "l'uno importante". E 'nato a Muong Tong Comune di Muong Nhe distretto nel nord-ovest Dien Bien Provincia, circa 200 chilometri (124 miglia) a nord-ovest di Dien Bien città. Ci suoi seguaci venivano a lui da tutto il paese, e ha riferito, ha fatto miracoli che accrescevano la sua reputazione. contraddizioni tra i culti nonostante, gli abitanti del villaggio scarsamente istruiti che li seguono sembrano essere fusi insieme i due in uno, essendo particolarmente attratto dall'idea di un regno Hmong, riferiscono le fonti.Almeno una delle organizzazioni della chiesa con cui sono affiliati i Hmong sembra essere stato a conoscenza della situazione iniziale. In marzo, quando il Bene Vietnam chiesa Mission Notizie sentito parlare del culto Camping end-of-the-parola, ha pubblicato un libretto di 14 pagine in Hmong e vietnamita cura confutare la falsa dottrina, i leader della chiesa hanno detto. Ma molti altri Hmong cristiani non hanno avuto accesso ad esso. funzionari della Chiesa evangelica del Vietnam-Nord, con la quale sono affiliati la maggior parte dei Hmong cristiani protestanti, è stato negato il permesso di visitare l'area del raduno in Muong Nhe distretto a metà settimana, I leader della chiesa hanno detto. Le autorità governative detto loro che non era una questione religiosa, hanno detto.   Le migliaia convergenti su Muong Nhe da varie parti del paese - le stime variano da 5.000 a 11.000 - fortemente interessati autorità vietnamite. Anche se hanno alleviato la persecuzione pesante di Hmong cristiani degli anni precedenti, le autorità vietnamite mantengono il sospetto di ciò che considerano una religione "straniera", riferiscono le fonti. Questa preoccupazione è notevolmente accresciuta ogni volta che non vi è alcun suggerimento di indipendenza politica, come nel caso di un regno Hmong guidato da un "Messia".   autorità vietnamite si mosse rapidamente su due fronti. Un funzionario vietnamita sito del governo iniziò una feroce campagna di disinformazione contro la "religione Vang Chu". Religione Vang Chu significa "La religione del Signore del Cielo" ed è quello che si chiamano Hmong protestanti. La pubblicazione, a quanto pare il primo di una serie, accusato Hmong protestanti di coinvolgimento nel contrabbando, droga, traffico di droga, la distruzione delle foreste, furto di terra, l'immigrazione clandestina e di minacciare la sicurezza nazionale. è legata anche la fede Vang Chu direttamente al recente defunto Hmong Gen. Vang Pao, che ha guidato CIA-supported forze Hmong in Laos contro i comunisti durante la guerra del Vietnam ed ha sostenuto una resistenza per anni. Il Web articolo governo sito mostra una foto di un Hmong Bianco Bibbia (uno dei due dialetti in cui si traduce la Bibbia Hmong) e un songbook cristiana, come se fossero documenti sovversive. L'articolo confonde le trasmissioni radio cristiane d'Oriente Broadcasting Co. trasmissioni a Radio Free Asia. Esso contiene anche diversi completamente e volutamente confuse dottrine cristiane e senso peggiorativo deride Hmong contadini per non essere in grado di rispondere a domande su ciò in cui credono. La disinformazione distacco conclude dicendo che la religione Vang Chu è una perversione del protestantesimo e viene sfruttata "da parte delle forze nemiche "per sovvertire la rivoluzione comunista. Piuttosto, i leader della chiesa hanno detto, sono i culti che sono una perversione del cristianesimo protestante. Il culto messianico in Hmong si chiama "Sau Vang." In secondo luogo, le autorità vietnamite mosse contro i seguaci di culto con la schiacciante forza militare. Elicotteri militari volato truppe dell'esercito di crack gente del Vietnam di ieri (5 maggio), per rafforzare molte forze di pattugliamento delle frontiere e la polizia già lì. A 17 minuti vietnamita in lingua intervista di un giornalista vietnamita BCC con Muong Nhe capo del distretto Giang A Dinh il Mercoledì (maggio 4) riflette come il governo ha voluto ritrarre la raccolta. Un arrabbiato Giang ha detto all'intervistatore della Hmong avevano preso in ostaggio alcuni funzionari. Oggi un funzionario provinciale superiore negata la presa di ostaggi e per il resto ha cercato di minimizzare la situazione, dicendo che era sotto controllo. Fonti interne alla zona interessata ha detto Compass il Mercoledì (4 maggio) che i leader di setta aveva allestito una tenda come un "tribunale" luogo per negoziare con le autorità per la terra. Le stesse fonti hanno detto che l'esercito e le altre forze spostato decisamente il giorno dopo e oggi di inviare e trasportare la parte posteriore montato Hmong alle loro case. Entro la fine di Venerdì, fonti Compass detto, solo 3.000 sono rimasti. Questo dato concorda con ciò che i funzionari del governo hanno detto le agenzie di stampa, ma una fonte ha aggiunto che Compass gruppo di 50 seguaci di culto, tra cui il presunto messia e un altro capo in alto, sono fuggiti nella foresta. Sono stati catturati, ed i due leader si diceva che sono stati gravemente picchiati dai loro rapitori. Un esperto Vietnam dette informazioni del governo, i rapporti di agenzia di stampa stranieri, e un diplomatico anonimo citato in un Agence France-Presse (AFP) Relazione sugli eventi in Muong Nhe distretto contengono informazioni che mette in discussione ingiustamente l'intero grande movimento cristiano Hmong. La Muong Nhe evento distretto è stato meglio compreso, l'esperto ha detto, come un insieme di un culto aberrante seguita da un minimo di 2 per cento dei cristiani Hmong. Inoltre, ha detto, l'aspetto del culto è stato reso più probabile dal fatto che molti cristiani Hmong sono ancora negati insegnando nelle credenze di base a causa di gravi restrizioni di libertà religiosa. Ad esempio, il Hmong viene ancora negata l'giuridicamente stampata della Bibbia.Solo circa il 20 per cento dei pastori Hmong sono legalmente autorizzati a studiare teologia. I leader cristiani che lavorano con i Hmong hanno fatto del loro meglio per contrastare il culto, riferiscono le fonti, ma il governo ha anche ostacolato questi sforzi. La combinazione volatile di religione e politica, in particolare quest messianica di una separata Hmong regno, si è rivelata un punto di infiammabilità per le autorità del Vietnam. "Questo evento dimostra purtroppo che la prima reazione naturale e il governo vietnamita è ancora di trovare motivi di impugnare tutto il movimento cristiano invece di cercare capire sfumature cruciali", ha detto l'esperto. "Fortunatamente, la risposta militare sembra essere stata misurata."Comunicati di The Associated Press, BBC e AFP su questo episodio troppo presto paragonato a dimostrazioni delle minoranze etniche per la libertà religiosa e diritto alla terra in altipiani centrali del Vietnam nel 2001 e nel 2004, l'esperto ha detto. Le motivazioni alla base di questo incontro Hmong erano completamente diverse - in attesa di un regno Hmong sarà inaugurato - anche se entrambi portato ad una percezione della domanda di terreni e l'indipendenza.   Un rapporto AFP ieri cita un diplomatico straniero come dire del Vietnam che, "Alcuni Hmong hanno già chiamato per uno Stato cristiano Hmong. "fonti della Chiesa hmong detto che questo era falso e ha sostenuto la posizione del governo. END



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